[ He almost launches back with his own protest, but ends up simply trying to shape words that won't come out. He can't win a fight here, not without the help of the Seraphim.

But, if she's here, if she is the Lord of Calamity then why- ]

This is a dream, isn't it?

[ He let's go of he sword and looks at Velvet, really looks at her. Her voice is angry but that's not all it is, it's righteous. It's filled with conviction. ]

You're not the Lord of Calamity anymore, there were more after you. That's why there were more Shepards too. The world as it is now, it's dying and people are getting hurt, even if it's impossible to get rid of malevolence completely...even if you think it's bad, you haven't seen how bad it is when people just....give in.

I could never give in like that, it's why I'm still fighting now.